The Silent Killer: Dialogue.
It is not as innocent as it might seem.
by
Dean Gotcher
"There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." Proverbs 16:25
"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God." Luke 16:5
"For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. " 1 John 2:16
To dialogue you must suspend the truth, as upon a cross, in order not to offend someone, i.e., in order not to hurt their "feelings" so you can continue to dialogue with them and "build relationship." It is what the Serpent, i.e., the master psychotherapist, facilitator of 'change' i.e., the master seducer, deceiver, and manipulator of mankind got the woman to do in the garden in Eden, 'justifying' her carnal desire of the 'moment,' i.e., to "touch the forbidden tree," leading her to—'justifying' her heart's desire—'justify' eating from it, in the end dying in her sins (Genesis 3:1-6). You can not be seduced, deceived, and manipulated unless you are seducible, deceivable, and manipulatable. It is in dialogue, where you "covet," i.e., "lust" after the things of the world, i.e., where you 'justify' your "self," i.e., where you role-play the carnal pleasures (desires) of the 'moment' that the world stimulates, i.e., where you manifest your "self interest" that seduction, deception, and manipulation reside. Whoever gains access to your "private convictions," where you struggle between dialogue, i.e., doing what you want, when you want, i.e., your "self interest" and discussion, i.e., doing right and not wrong according to established commands, rules, facts, and truth, i.e., doing the father's/Father's will, and gets you to dialogue, i.e., 'justify' your "self," controls your life. By changing communication from discussion (facts and truth) to dialogue ("feelings," opinions, theories) a "new" world order is 'created' where the child's carnal nature rules without the father's/Father's authority (parental/Godly restraint).
"The individual may have 'secret' thoughts which he will under no circumstances reveal to anyone else if he can help it. To gain access [through getting him or her to dialogue, i.e., to share his or her "feelings" of the 'moment' with others] is particularly important, for here may lie the individual's potential [for 'change,' i.e., to become of and for his or her "self" and the world only—'liberated' from the father's/Father's authority]." (Theodor Adorno, The Authoritarian Personality)
"We know how to influence the ... behavior of individuals by setting up conditions which provide satisfaction for needs of which they are unconscious, but which we have been able to determine." "If we have the power or authority to establish the necessary conditions, the predicted behaviors [our potential ability to influence or control the behavior of groups] will follow." "We can choose to use our growing knowledge to enslave people in ways never dreamed of before, depersonalizing them, controlling them by means so carefully selected that they will perhaps never be aware of their loss of personhood." "We can achieve a sort of control under which the controlled, though they are following a code much more scrupulously than was ever the case under the old system, nevertheless feel free. They are doing what they want to do, not what they are forced to do. That's the source of the tremendous power of positive reinforcement [children affirming each others carnal desires and dissatisfactions over and therefore against their parent's, i.e., the father's/Father's authority]—there's no restraint and no revolt." "By a careful design, we control not the final behavior, but the inclination to behavior—the motives, the desires, the wishes [all made manifest in dialogue]. The curious thing is that in that case the question of freedom never arises." (Carl Rogers, on becoming a person: A Therapist View of Psychotherapy)
"And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you:" 2 Peter 2:3
"The heart is deceitful above all things [thinking pleasure is the standard for "good" instead of doing right and not wrong according the Father's commands, rules, facts, and truth, i.e., having to set aside pleasure, i.e., having to humble, deny, die to "self" in order to do God the Father's will], and desperately wicked [hating God the Father and His authority which "gets in the way," i.e. which prevents, i.e., inhibits or blocks it from enjoying the carnal pleasures of the 'moment' which the world stimulates]: who can know it?" Jeremiah 17:9 Those of dialectic 'reasoning,' as children of disobedience, 'justifying' their "self," can not see their hatred toward God the Father as being evil because their love of "self," i.e., their love of pleasure—which the world stimulates—is "in the way," blinding them to the truth, i.e., blinding them to the deceitfulness and wickedness of their heart.
It is not that we do not dialogue. We do when it comes to things that are of preference, such as what we are going to eat at lunch (which of the trees in the garden we are going to eat from), and not of "It is written," i.e., established commands, rules, facts, and truth which we are to accept as given, by faith, and obey (not of "the forbidden tree," where "sense experience" becomes the basis of knowing right from wrong instead of God's Word). "It is impossible to please God without faith." "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God." It is impossible to have faith in God, i.e., to accept His Word as is and dialogue—where you have to suspend the truth, as upon a cross, in order to continue the dialogue with your "self" and/or with others. In dialogue you 'justify' your "self," i.e., you 'justify' your "lust" for the carnal pleasures of the 'moment' which the world stimulates. In discussion you defend established commands, rules, facts, and truth, i.e., you defend the father's/Father's authority, wanting to do or be right and not wrong according to them, i.e., according to him/Him, making changes, if any, only very carefully, i.e., only after much discussion (weighing facts with facts, i.e., weighing the Word of God with the Word of God—to dialogue the Word of God makes it subject to your opinion, i.e., to your carnal desires, i.e., to your "feelings" ("self interest") of the 'moment' which includes the approval, i.e., affirmation of men, i.e., the fear of rejection).
"Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be." Romans 8:7
When we dialogue with others, we affirm their carnal nature as they affirm ours, making our carnal desires of the 'moment' which the world stimulates, the standard from which we determine right from wrong, negating the father's/Father's authority (Hebrews 12:5-11), i.e., negating his/His established commands, rules, facts, and truth and the guilty conscience (Romans 7:14-25) for doing wrong, disobeying, sinning (which the father's/Father's authority engenders) in the process. Instead of knowing the truth because the father/Father told us, in dialogue we "know" the "truth" from our own life experience, making "truth" subject to our own carnal 'reasoning.' In dialogue there is no wrong (wrong shuts down dialogue) only your and/or the other person not being as right as you and/or they could or should have been—having done the job "badly" or having behaved "badly," with doing "better" being the objective instead (which is subjective, i.e., not a crime, i.e., not punishable; being wrong is a crime, i.e., punishable).
"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever." 1 John 2:15-17
The objective of those who insist upon dialogue, i.e., who insist upon being "positive" ("ye shall not surely die") and not "negative" ("thou shalt surely die") is in dialogue there is no father's/Father's authority ("negativity"), so they (and you, if you join in) can, with affirmation, do wrong, disobey, sin with impunity—(dying in their/your sins). In eating of the fruit of the "forbidden tree" the woman had "peace" in her "self" (for the 'moment'), being able to do what she wanted, when she wanted, her 'reasoning' and actions being 'justified, i.e., "affirmed" by Adam, who with her, ate the fruit of the "forbidden tree" (she gave him) as well. Literally, the woman in the garden in Eden was the first "environmentalist," i.e., "tree hugger." Adam was the first "humanist," choosing the woman, i.e., "human relationship" over God. Adam and the woman were in fact the first 'liberal's'—'liberal's' are never wrong (in their mind) they are just let down (disappointed) by others who did not do their job right. Refusing to admit he was wrong (and repent) Adam, like a 'liberal,' when caught doing wrong, blamed the woman (someone else) instead—throwing her "under the bus." The woman, following in suit, when caught doing wrong, blamed the Serpent (something else) instead—throwing him "under the bus."
"In the dialogic relation of recognizing oneself in the other, they experience the common ground of their existence." (Jürgen Habermas, Knowledge & Human Interest, Chapter Three: The Idea of the Theory of Knowledge as Social Theory)
"For men shall be lovers of their own selves .... disobedient to parents .... lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God ...: from such turn away." 2 Timothy 3:2-5 (excerpts)
In dialogue, the only person who is wrong (punishable) is the person who refuses to participate in, who resists, or who exposes the process of dialogue, i.e., who insists upon everyone doing right and not wrong according to the father's/Father's established commands, rules, facts, and truth, i.e., "rule of law." It is why Jesus Christ was put on the cross—he was "wrong" because he refused to dialogue, i.e., he refused to find "common ground" with those who loved the carnal pleasures of this world, including the praises (affirmation) of men more than God. It is why our Lord said to the psychologists of his day, who's profession was based upon dialogue, i.e., upon suspending the truth, as upon a cross, in order to 'discover' the "truth" through dialogue, i.e., in order to 'discover' the "truth" in their "selves," i.e., in order to 'discover' the "truth" in their carnal desire to be at-one-with the world in "peace," with "affirmation."
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." John 8:44
"Every one that is proud in heart [who 'justifies' his "self," i.e., who 'justifies' his carnal desires and dissatisfactions of the 'moment,' i.e. who establishes "self," i.e., "human nature" above (and therefore against) God, i.e., the Father's authority—thus negating the Father's authority, i.e., the fear of God in his thoughts and actions] is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished." Proverbs 16:5
"The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes. For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful. The words of his mouth are iniquity and deceit: he hath left off to be wise, and to do good. He deviseth mischief upon his bed; he setteth himself in a way that is not good; he abhorreth not evil." Psalms 36:1-4
"Because that, when they knew God [the creation bearing witness of Him, i.e., of His power and greatness, along with man's ability to be in awe (aware) of it, i.e., in awe (aware) of His works and therefore in awe (aware) of Him], they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools," "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;" "Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." Romans 1:21, 22, 28, 32
The objective of those pushing dialogue, in order to "know" ('discover') the "truth" is to "prevent someone who KNOWS from filling the empty space." (Wilfred Bion, A Memoir of the Future)
To be silent in the midst of unrighteousness, i.e., in the midst of dialogue, i.e., in the midst of suspending the truth, as upon a cross, in order to get along, i.e., in order to have the approval (affirmation) of men is to make unrighteousness, i.e., "human nature" the "norm." In your desire for "peace and affirmation," your silence, i.e., your "tolerance of ambiguity, diversity, deviancy" will leave everyone in the room subject to eternal death. Dialogue, when it comes to doing right and not wrong according to established commands, rules, facts, and truth is a silent killer, i.e., "deceitful above all things" and "desperately wicked"—"who can know it," i.e., you can not see it from your "self"—you have to humble, deny, die to your "self" before God in order to see it for what it is, deceitful and wicked.
"Few individuals, as Asch has shown, can maintain their objectivity ['loyalty' to the father's/Father's authority] in the face of apparent group unanimity." (Irvin Yalom, Theory and Practice and Group Psychotherapy)
The souls of children are dying in silence (in order to "get along," i.e., in order not be rejected by "the group") in the "group grade," "group psychotherapy," facilitated,' Transformational Marxist, soviet, brainwashing, "safe zone/space/place," "positive," i.e., dialoguing opinions to a consensus classroom—where "Bloom's Taxonomies" are used as the curriculum. To challenge the system of dialogue—with established commands, rules, facts, and truth, i.e., to remain in faith to the father's/Father's authority and be rejected by "the group"—puts children in a state of cognitive dissonance—where they have to choose between doing right and not wrong according to their father's/Father's commands, rules, facts, and truth or making right and wrong subject to their carnal desire of the 'moment,' including their desire to be a part of (affirmed by) "the group." If they yield to "group pressure," when they get home they will at first keep silent (as Adam and the woman did in the garden in Eden, hiding from God) in order to keep their "dirty little secret," i.e., their rejection of the father's authority to themselves (out of fear of being rejected by him as well as to prevent him from interfering with their group experience) leading to their questioning, challenging, defying, disregarding, attacking his authority if they are "pressure" by him to explain what they learned in school that day.
"There are many stories of the conflict and tension that these new practices are producing between parents and children." (David Krathwohl, Benjamin S. Bloom, Taxonomy of Educational Objectives Book 2: Affective Domain)
It is the use of dialogue in environments dealing with right and wrong that we are becoming a socialist nation, i.e., "building relationship upon self interest," making our carnal desires, instead of the Word of God our basis for 'reasoning,' i.e., our basis for knowing right from wrong, i.e., our basis for knowing good from evil—as the woman did in the garden in Eden. There really is nothing new under the sun.
"So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God." Romans 14:12
"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths." Proverb. 3: 5-6
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that " Matthew 10:32-39
"For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother." Matthew 12:50
"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Matthew 23:9
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my father which is in heaven." Matthew 7:21
"How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?" "And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." John 3:30
"And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
"But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:1-9
"Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them." Colossians 3:5-7
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty." 2 Corinthians 6:14-18
© Institution for Authority Research, Dean Gotcher 2019